Let us earn some noise for your bottoms at home! (its me personally, the underside in your house.) Bottom customs is now rather a Thing⢠using the internet as of late! Exactly what does it really suggest to be a bottom? The reason why has got the culture chose bottoming is actually just becoming afraid to inquire about for just what you want? And just how really does someone go-about choosing as long as they fancy bottoming?!
With all these questions rattling around the thoughts, requiring solutions, Drew and I realized there was clearly one individual we’re able to go to for a rounded, passionate dialogue about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is just one of the most readily useful individuals I’m sure writing and tweeting today, and as a bottom myself, i will be honored to phone her my personal frontrunner. Chingy allows us to tease out exactly what it method for be a bottom, exactly why she detests “smol bean” bottom tradition, your body as hole, plus human anatomy as
total
. Truly a really gorgeous discussion, if I perform say so myself personally! Kindly know that I am aware that we say “gorgeous” around three thousand occasions this occurrence, and I am pursuing help for my personal situation. (the disorder is talking like 57 year old white homosexual man.)
And! Recently’s video game involves me personally guessing if challenging plots Drew defines fit in with a film or a dream she had circa 2006. It is hard!
SHOW RECORDS
+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!
+listed here is a listing of every flicks that Drew included in her video game:
-
The Seventh Seal
(1937) -
Mentioning Kid
(1938) -
Pierrot le Fou
(1965) -
Dark Swan
(2010)
+Watch Anna Faris carry out the most useful work of the woman career in
Smiley Face!
+Let
Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one rest while outfitted as Chrisjen
Avasarala
from
The Expanse
because you need that.
+Cindy Wilson of B52s is very hot and honestly? “Love Shack” however whips!
+
Robert Mitchum
, stone-cold fox.
EPISODE
Chingy
: I’ve simply already been bottoming since I was, I don’t know, dating back to I can bear in mind.
Drew
: Cue Rags to wealth from
Goodfellas.
Chingy
: dating back I’m able to remember, I always desired to be a bottom, no, but type
[intro performs]
Drew
: Hi, I’m Drew.
Christina
: I’m Christina.
Drew
: Thanks for visiting
Wait, So Is This a night out together
?
Christina
:
Wait, Is This a Date?
is actually an Autostraddle podcast specialized in the main one, truly the only the greatest question of your times: hold off, So is this a Date?
Drew
: And, wow, i truly merely froze upwards here.
Christina
: I became like, oh shit, I happened to be supposed to say some thing! [laughs]
Drew
: i am really fast toward banter, my brain only⦠The reality is that I happened to be reading over my personal game notes, which we aren’t at however because we still have to present our selves. So, i will make an effort to stay dedicated to one task at a time.
Christina
: Focus upwards!
Drew
: i’m Drew Gregory, i will be an author for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans woman.
Christina
: Hi, my name is Christina Tucker, forgot my last name for a hot min, no big issue. Im in addition a writer at Autostraddle alongside spots online, a podcaster, a gay black colored woman. That’s variety of it, puppy, that is me.
Drew
: I favor it. Okay, today we-
Christina
: Now the video game.
Drew
: Can we play the video game?
Christina
: Can we get to the game? I’m able to inform you’re thrilled, I can show’re only shaking.
Drew
: very, i have been keeping a dream diary since 2007, while the premise of the video game is actually-
Christina
: I didn’t understand this about yourself!
Drew
: Yes, it isn’t as current today, I used to write-down all my personal aspirations and today it’s only when one thing truly sticks. But, the assumption for this game is, am I explaining the plot of an aspiration I got whenever I was a teenager, or are I explaining the land of a film that I enjoyed when I was an adolescent?
Christina
: Oh kid, ok.
Drew
: Thus, ways it’ll get is I’ll always describe it as an aspiration plus initial individual. Therefore, if it ended up being
Celebrity Wars,
I’d resemble, i am in room and that I’m battling included in a rebellion, and there’s an evil man who is sporting a black robot suit and it also looks like he is my dad. That’s how I’ll explain it, the way we describe goals, but sometimes it would be an aspiration, sometimes it’ll be from a film. Ready?
Christina
: I’m anything, I am not sure that i am prepared, but let’s stone. Why don’t we see what i will do here.
Drew
: Okay, I’m on a coastline and that I see this strange man dressed in black colored. He tells me which he’s dying and then we can take advantage of a casino game to decide easily reside or if he takes me. We are able to get away, but everywhere I go, everyone is sick and I also feel dying continues to be following me.The only pleased part happens when We satisfy a theater troupe and they are an enjoyable experience.
Christina
: This,In my opinion, is actually an aspiration.
Drew
: this will be Ingmar Bergman’s
The Seventh Seal
from 1957.
Christina
: it is going to be a genuine gotcha on CT’s classic flick expertise, because what I understand that Drew, within adolescence, wasn’t carrying out ended up being viewing films that i will identify. At this time, i am style of hoping that I’ve seen not one of them. I believe which will be more enjoyable for me.
Drew
: The second one, i am interviewing my children and a few Italian US gangsters. Among the gangsters requires that we give more than some money, but my loved ones and I also were able to get away. We try to escape through this all cold terrain, on the highway we satisfy an actress and connect with their. We end up in a suburb. In my opinion we’re going to start a unique existence together until she requires us to a large mansion, and I realize it belongs to the gangster. It was all a trap, the gangster arrives and there’s a confrontation. I kill him, the fantasy ends up with all the actress executing a musical number.
Christina
: So is this a film?
Drew
: this could be a dream I had in 2008.
Christina
: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, I guess i must understand that its 2000, its old school Drew mind. That is what i must recall.
Drew
: In addition want, exactly what films had been I viewing at the time and exactly how a lot did that effect my personal ambitions?
Christina
: Well, yeah, obviously a lot!
Drew
: a great fact is that I became in fact, i did not consist of this because I was thinking this will give it out, however the gangster had been Tony Soprano because I happened to be viewing
The Sopranos
in 2008. Thus, that’s a great little reality. Okay, next one, You will find an essential assignment, but this hot girl appears and begins sidetracking myself. I would like to be together, but I also need to get could work completed, thus I tell the girl to go out of. She keeps soon after myself. Suddenly, a leopard seems in my own place and I need spend remaining dream attempting to capture the leopard. I’m nonetheless really nervous, I never complete might work, but at least your ex is hot.
Christina
: it’s to be an aspiration you have, it’s getting a Drew fantasy.
Drew
: This Might Be Howard Hawks’
Mentioning Baby
from 1938.
Christina
: No, but that is a dream you have, that is the the majority of Drew fantasy I have you ever heard. Now at this time, i am just probably going to be spinning film background, to accommodate my personal whims.
Drew
: Great, I like that. Okay, I’m at a celebration and I you shouldn’t like anyone there. Ultimately, I see this woman, I used to have a crush on therefore choose to keep collectively. We head to the woman house, but they are chased down through this number of men that happen to be trying to kill the lady. We finish on a beach and it also seems like we’re going to be okay up until the guys come across you. She ultimately ends up being into this additional guy, therefore I grab cartoonish dynamite and determine to strike myself up
Christina
: Film.
Drew
: this can be! It is Jean Luc Goddard’s
Pierrot le Fou
, from 1965.
Christina
: Have not viewed, but that appears like a ding dang flick in my experience.
Drew
: Great, I adore it. There’s a narration describing a strange motorboat like structure that is impractical to ruin. I am going on a retreat near the construction, the refuge is kind of movie theater connected, sort of religious. We have a crush on this lady at refuge, but she has a boyfriend. Amid the performances and rituals, there are many drama between me and that lady along with her date, it stops beside me alone. There is a sequence exposing that vessel framework is actually impractical to wreck because a mechanical supply fixes it from inside the night.
Christina
: that might be any such thing in so many means, i will state film once more, why-not?
Drew
: it’s a dream from 2011, that performed have narration from somebody else, you understand, it happens!
Christina
: This is really great promo for an aspiration record, because personally i think adore it is enjoyable easily could keep in mind my personal aspirations in this way.
Drew
: no one likes when you explain your own aspirations in their eyes. I do however, and I also’m the pal, so if you need write-down the goals and tell me, i might like to hear about all of them.
Christina
: Okay, which is great to listen.
Drew
: I have two even more.
Christina
: Okay.
Drew
: I’m in a lovely yard with a team of friends, we-all appear to be waking up from getting drugged. We are forced to shower in an acid that drains pigment and now we become gothic and blue-eyed. The folks responsible start training united states to kill, as it happens this place is operate by a crazy dictator, we resist obtaining completely brainwashed. There’s this woman there I have a crush on and I convince the girl to escape beside me, while leaking out I have shot and slain, however the lady will get out. When she actually leaves the jail, she realizes we’re in the center of a forest generally there’s no place commit.
Christina
: Film.
Drew
: that will be the initial dream in my dream record from, I mentioned, “2007.” It’s actually 2006.
Christina
: Wow.
Drew
: I always thought it absolutely was fascinating that we die for the fantasy, although other individual goes on on. But now, there is some weird sex material taking place here, and I’m likely to need think of any particular one for some time.
Christina
: Seriously do this.
Drew
: Okay, You will find yet another.
Christina
: Okay.
Drew
: I’ve been considering the possiblity to be a dancer, my personal mother claims I won’t be able to do it. There is this various other woman when you look at the show exactly who I think is hot, but I’m nervous she is going to replace me personally. I am battling in rehearsal, but-end upwards leaving using woman, we hook-up. It is hot, but i’m myself personally shedding control, we return to the dancing show. My human body appears to be morphing into something different, I’m worried that i will mess-up.
Christina
: that is a film.
Drew
: So,
Ebony Swan
.
Christina
: Yes, that will be
Ebony Swan
, undoubtedly.
Drew
: perhaps you have viewed
Ebony Swan
? That was one I imagined you’ve viewed.
Christina
: I have seen
Black Swan
, I⦠Fun reality, I continued a romantic date with a man observe
Ebony Swan
.
Drew
: Wow.
Christina
: merely right circumstances I did.
Drew
: What was that like?
Christina
: crazy, it actually was unusual.
Drew
: Do you like the motion picture? Performed the guy such as the film?
Christina
: I think, I’d already viewed it, In my opinion I was love, “let us go find it once more.” In my opinion, I became really pro
Black Swan,
and right heterosexual factors, certainly.
Drew
: Sure, okay.
Christina
: And, he was like, “which was weird.” And I also had been similar, “Oh well, we aren’t likely to still time.”
Drew
: Wow, well I wish him the greatest, I hope he’s somewhere succeeding. Thanks a lot for playing this game with me.
Christina
: Wow, I’m so happy we went two for nevertheless lots of we performed on that.
Drew
: maybe not awful.
Christina
: perhaps not terrible.
Drew
: You Probably Did a lot better than Elise performed while I planned to see if this is a practical game that may operate, and she was actually my personal guinea pig. Therefore, she merely had gotten one right.
Christina
: Fair adequate.
Drew
: Should we proceed to our primary topic from the week?
Christina
: Why don’t we go into it, why don’t we understand this unique visitor in.
Drew
: Well, I would like to 1st declare that all of our major subject associated with the week is bottoming, so we could simply have one really special guest.
Christina
: its only one individual.
Drew
: Could you please introduce your self?
Chingy
: Hi, I’m Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. I am a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian fabric dyke muppet. Im in addition The united states’s top bottom.
Christina
: Yes, i do believe when we happened to be speaking about subjects and we’re like, “We could explore bottoming so there’s practically just one individual we could have on the pod to accomplish this, absolutely only one individual that is fairly literally the Supreme.”
Chingy
: Thank you so much for identifying, it feels good getting your own success respected, thanks
Christina
: Yes, and also you’ve completed fantastic work, and here the audience is knowing it.
Drew
: I would like to understand as soon as you feel like you turned into America’s greatest base. When was that a word and a label and an identity you actually conducted onto?
Chingy
: Well, thus I normally only state, “i am the base Supreme.” Because, who cares about The usa?
Drew
: Sure.
Christina
: reasonable sufficient.
Chingy
: Yeah, i believe that i usually was really proficient at bottoming, then again in 2017 or something, we visited a play party that has been only for fem leading sadists conquering me up for six to seven hrs straight, also it was just myself, and I had been like, “Oh, I’m ideal which is ever been.” Then, i believe after that, i simply kept escalating being, wow, i am very fun to view. Wow, I’m therefore interesting as a bottom, this is certainly wow, everyone who reaches peak me is really so happy. And, it simply went from there, I think, and then I typed a write-up also known as I’m a better Bottom Than You. Listed Here Is Precisely Why. It absolutely was sort of a manifesto, it actually was a bottom manifesto.
Christina
: Yes, can verify.
Chingy
: And, a lot of people have actually said, “It’s changed how they evaluate gender.” And, i love that a lot. It’s the one post back at my site that I created truth be told there. I have composed at
Vice
,
Teen Fashion
,
Vulture
â
Autostraddle
was actually the first location we typed, actually. But yeah, that is the one blog back at my website, if you wish to visit.
Christina
: I adore a solid brand name, I favor knowing a brand, and I think that’s actually attractive, merely, brand name handling of your very own bottomy yourself. In my opinion, that is really gorgeous to see.
Chingy
: many thanks, i acquired my personal first writing opportunity at
Autostraddle
because I was authoring getting a base, being poly, and being really deep into becoming a leather dyke. And since subsequently, I’ve started to talk about a lot of other things, but getting bottom part great just sort of is the one through line of everything.
Christina
: Yes.
Drew
: In addition feel you’re a really energetic base in addition to in the manner that you share, and talk about, and I assume knowledge bottoming you are very energetic. Whereas, I think there’s lots of the queer community, possibly, especially the lesbian neighborhood, that perhaps thinks of bottoming as⦠I’m not sure-
Chingy:
Passivity
.
Christina
: Mm-hmm
(Affirmative)
.
Drew
: Yeah.
Chingy
: Yeah, we frequently claim that there’s way less soles than individuals think tend to be soles. I think there’s a distinction between getting a bottom and merely unsure or asking for what you want. In my opinion those are a couple of completely different things that folks conflate.
Christina
: I would personally must concur, In addition believe the way in which you discuss bottoming is, What i’m saying is, let’s simply say it, much significantly less irritating compared to means so many people speak about getting a base or recognize with bottom part culture. Because, i actually do think that exactly what a lot of people assert explicitly or non clearly is merely, i will be sluggish and do not care and attention doing any sort of action, task, et-cetera, i’d like things completed to me. And, if I have to look for that out in in whatever way, that hurts my personal feelings. And, you happen to be so great so effective at being, they are items that i’d like, bring these to me personally and I also will rock your own globe. That will be gorgeous in my opinion.
Chingy
: thanks, after all, that is what you should do as effective in only something, you have to place yourself online and attempt and then make errors acquire harm a bit, and, I’m not sure, study from it.
Christina
: I think that is an excellent message, honestly.
Chingy
: I’ve just already been bottoming since I have had been, I don’t know, as far back as I am able to recall. [laughs]
Drew
: Cue “Rags to Riches” from
Goodfellas
.
Chingy
: Yeah, dating back I’m able to bear in mind, I always wanted to be a bottom. No, but sorts of, when I was 13 or 14, I found myself already checking out SADO MASO website for lesbian SADO MASO internet sites. So, I wasn’t under any delusions regarding what I became when it comes to, I became having women we dated in high school choke me personally completely, we realized the things I wanted. Therefore, that level of awareness recently provided me a long time to know what I want and work out how to obtain it.
Christina
: Gorgeous, Drew, offer myself your emotions on bottoming.
Drew
: Well, I’m actually truly excited to talk about this because I believe like in 2019 {when I|as I|while